[Bug]: Viewer Doesn't Start

[ThePademelon]

Environment

N/A

Description

Alchemy doesn't start. Here's the output after running the executable named "alchemy" downloaded from here.

Running from /vol/drive4/Alchemy_Beta_7_1_9_2514_x86_64
bin/llplugin/chrome-sandbox permissions are not set properly to run under sandboxing.
wine: chdir to /home/nim/.alchemynext/wine : No such file or directory
bin/alchemy-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libsystemd.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
*** Bad shutdown (127). ***

You are running Alchemy Viewer on a x86_64 platform.

Reproduction steps

1. Run ./alchemy in the folder containing the Alchemy executable.

[Quinn-Elara]

bin/alchemy-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libsystemd.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Please ensure that systemd is installed for your distribution.

[ThePademelon]

I figured that was the issue, thanks. My distribution doesn't ship with systemd.

It's probably a big ask, but is there any possibility of a version that can work without it in future?

[Quinn-Elara]

I believe that only one component relies on systemd at the moment, which is the dbus service Alchemy uses. (I could be wrong however).

I do not believe there are any plans at the moment to make changes in this regard however.

[XenHat]

The release binaries we provide do require systemD, but you can compile the viewer yourself and it will automatically pick elogind instead.
If you're on Arch Linux, there's a PKGBUILD here: https://github.com/XenHat/alchemy-pkgbuild/blob/main/nosystemd-git/PKGBUILD

[ThePademelon]

I'm not using Arch, so I'm trying to build it following the instructions here, but they seem to be a little wonky (instructions to cd into a directory that doesnt exist, running autobuild in a folder without autobuild.xml). I'm trying to build it as best I can, but during the generation of the build configuration it says libvlc isn't installed (it is). Any idea why that might happen? Thanks in advance.

[DarlCat]

@ThePademelon Thank you for highlighting those outdated steps, I've just updated the instructions and confirmed steps 1-5 are now up to date. We moved to Github in 2024 so the repository name changed from alchemy-next to Alchemy in the transition, but that was not reflected in our example cd commands.

[ThePademelon]

Thanks for updating the docs! I tried again, but hit the same problem.

(.venv) [nim@pc-gamma Alchemy]$ autobuild configure -c ReleaseOS -A64 -- -DLL_TESTS=OFF -DDISABLE_FATAL_WARNINGS=ON
Warning: no --id argument or AUTOBUILD_BUILD_ID environment variable specified;
    using a value from the UTC date and time (250270225), which may not be unique
 '/home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/.venv/bin/cmake' '-DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE:STRING=Release' '-DADDRESS_SIZE:STRING=64' '-DROOT_PROJECT_NAME:STRING=Alchemy' '-DINSTALL_PROPRIETARY=FALSE' '-G' 'Ninja' '-DLL_TESTS=OFF' '-DDISABLE_FATAL_WARNINGS=ON' '../indra'
-- Building 'Alchemy Test' Version 7.1.9.57706
-- Long SHA: 62533287a93f33ff246e7334257f2d499f6b2600
-- Short SHA: 62533287a9
-- {fmt} version: 11.1.0
-- Build type: Release
CMake Deprecation Warning at /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/_deps/meshoptimizer-src/CMakeLists.txt:1 (cmake_minimum_required):
  Compatibility with CMake < 3.10 will be removed from a future version of
  CMake.

  Update the VERSION argument <min> value.  Or, use the <min>...<max> syntax
  to tell CMake that the project requires at least <min> but has been updated
  to work with policies introduced by <max> or earlier.


CMake Deprecation Warning at /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/_deps/nfd-src/CMakeLists.txt:1 (cmake_minimum_required):
  Compatibility with CMake < 3.10 will be removed from a future version of
  CMake.

  Update the VERSION argument <min> value.  Or, use the <min>...<max> syntax
  to tell CMake that the project requires at least <min> but has been updated
  to work with policies introduced by <max> or earlier.


nfd Platform: PLATFORM_LINUX
nfd Compiler: COMPILER_GNU
Using DBUS version: 1.14.10
-- Checking for module 'libvlc'
--   No package 'libvlc' found
CMake Error at /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/.venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages/cmake/data/share/cmake-3.31/Modules/FindPkgConfig.cmake:645 (message):
  The following required packages were not found:

   - libvlc

Call Stack (most recent call first):
  /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/.venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages/cmake/data/share/cmake-3.31/Modules/FindPkgConfig.cmake:873 (_pkg_check_modules_internal)
  cmake/LibVLCPlugin.cmake:11 (pkg_check_modules)
  media_plugins/libvlc/CMakeLists.txt:12 (include)


-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
ERROR: default configuration returned 1
For more information: try re-running your command with --verbose or --debug

I have libvlc 3.0.21 installed via XBPS.

[DarlCat]

That's a cmake error generated by this line; you need to make sure that your installed library is discovered by cmake. That is outside the scope of viewer support.

[DarlCat]

Oh. You need to install vlc-devel on Void Linux.

[ThePademelon]

Thanks, installing vlc-devel got me a lot further! However, it seems ld is still looking for sytemd and causing the build to fail:

...

master: https://github.com/AlchemyViewer/master-message-template/raw/master/message_template.msg
current: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/scripts/messages/message_template.msg
Message template BLAKE2 has not changed.
/usr/bin/ld: warning: libsystemd.so.0, needed by /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link)
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_interface_name_is_valid@LIBSYSTEMD_246'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_set_server@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_creds_get_euid@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_flush_close_unref@LIBSYSTEMD_222'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_get_events@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_get_interface@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_close_container@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_read_array@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_emit_interfaces_added_strv@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_new_method_return@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_new_method_error@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_object_vtable_format@LIBSYSTEMD_243'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_enter_container@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_add_match@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_call@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_call_async@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_add_object_vtable@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_get_member@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_error_set@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_set_destination@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_unref@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_at_end@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_seal@LIBSYSTEMD_236'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_set_address@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_emit_properties_changed_strv@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_read_basic@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_new@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_creds_get_uid@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_release_name@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_get_timeout@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_slot_unref@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_open_container@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_open_system@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_emit_object_removed@LIBSYSTEMD_222'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_set_trusted@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_get_destination@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_append_basic@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_send@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_ref@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_open_user@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_get_sender@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_open_system_remote@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_creds_get_egid@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_set_expect_reply@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_new@LIBSYSTEMD_236'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_creds_get_selinux_context@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_start@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_get_unique_name@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_id128_randomize@LIBSYSTEMD_209'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_flush@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_is_empty@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_set_method_call_timeout@LIBSYSTEMD_240'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_error_free@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_get_fd@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_error_is_set@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_creds_get_supplementary_gids@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_new_method_call@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_get_error@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_error_set_errno@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_add_object_manager@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_emit_interfaces_removed_strv@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_request_name@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_creds_get_gid@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_open@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_set_bus_client@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_get_bus@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_copy@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_member_name_is_valid@LIBSYSTEMD_246'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_service_name_is_valid@LIBSYSTEMD_246'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_rewind@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_creds_unref@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_peek_type@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_new_signal@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_query_sender_creds@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_close_unref@LIBSYSTEMD_241'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_emit_object_added@LIBSYSTEMD_222'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_process@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_append_array@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_set_fd@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_get_path@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_object_path_is_valid@LIBSYSTEMD_246'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_get_expect_reply@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_get_method_call_timeout@LIBSYSTEMD_240'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_message_exit_container@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_add_match_async@LIBSYSTEMD_237'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/nim/repositories/Alchemy/build-linux-64/packages/lib/release/libsdbus-c++.so: undefined reference to `sd_bus_creds_get_pid@LIBSYSTEMD_221'
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
ninja: build stopped: subcommand failed.
ERROR: building configuration {'configure': {'command': None, 'options': ['-G', 'Ninja'], 'arguments': None, 'filters': None}, 'build': {'command': 'cmake', 'options': ['--build', '.', '--config', 'Release', '--parallel', '24'], 'arguments': None, 'filters': None}, 'default': False, 'name': 'ReleaseOS'} returned 1
For more information: try re-running your command with --verbose or --debug

I might try installing basu or basu-devel and seeing if that fixes it. I probably wont get around to it until friday, but I thought I'd give an update.

[ThePademelon]

Installing basu/basu-devel didn't remedy the issue, so I'm not really sure what to try next.

[DarlCat]

You ran a configure command again after installing the package, correct?

[ThePademelon]

Yeah, I ran step 4 again before trying to build.

[XenHat]

The PKGBUILD was made on Artix, which is Arch Linux without systemD, and uses OpenRC and elogind instead. I have no experience with NixOS but if you can add elogind, it would be interesting to try to see if it still builds as it did back then.