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Sometimes when have a significant workload rotating the laptop quite quickly makes the fans a weird significant noise for a few seconds #6

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Benjamin-Loison opened this issue Mar 6, 2024 · 20 comments
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Sometimes when have a significant workload rotating the laptop quite quickly makes the fans a weird significant noise for a few seconds #6

Benjamin-Loison opened this issue Mar 6, 2024 · 20 comments

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Benjamin-Loison commented Mar 6, 2024 •
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Already noticed that like 3 times.

However, it happened again but it was during 10 seconds this time, hence significantly more longer. It seems that the computer was working during this sound.

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Related to #4.

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This time the fan was already doing some work but when I put it in its cover, even if the Linux Mint was Suspended, it started to be crazy as reported above.

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Benjamin-Loison commented Jun 24, 2024 •
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Today and yesterday my fans had the weird significant noise for quite no workload reason. These last days I potentially have a small anormal fan sound.

I had it twice with less than 10% of battery, maybe it is related.

I had 94% this time. I again have it with full battery while plugged and the computer was laying on my desk for several minutes.

I should open and clean the CPU fan or try to open it when there is a small sound go see where it comes from maybe. Opening the laptop when it is rotating heavily is maybe not a good idea. However, I should check what is the fan speed based on Benjamin-Loison/EmbeddedController/issues/4#issuecomment-2123227752:

sudo /home/benjamin/Desktop/bens_folder/dev/git/github/EmbeddedController/build/hx30/util/ectool pwmgetfanrpm

I could disable providing the password for this purpose. As the fan may stop heavily rotating for a few seconds:

Bash script: 
while [ 1 ]
do
    date
    sudo /home/benjamin/Desktop/bens_folder/dev/git/github/EmbeddedController/build/hx30/util/ectool pwmgetfanrpm
    sleep 1
done

We should not expect significantly more than 9,000 RPM, as we get that much when try manually to push the fan to the best of its performances while it does not make a weird sound.

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Benjamin-Loison commented Jul 7, 2024 •
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Output: 
Sun Jul  7 09:40:26 PM CEST 2024
Fan 0 stalled!
Sun Jul  7 09:40:27 PM CEST 2024
Fan 0 RPM: 226
Sun Jul  7 09:40:28 PM CEST 2024
Fan 0 RPM: 215
Sun Jul  7 09:40:29 PM CEST 2024
Fan 0 RPM: 210
Sun Jul  7 09:40:30 PM CEST 2024
Fan 0 RPM: 201
Sun Jul  7 09:40:31 PM CEST 2024
Fan 0 RPM: 192
Sun Jul  7 09:40:32 PM CEST 2024
Fan 0 RPM: 187
Sun Jul  7 09:40:33 PM CEST 2024
Fan 0 stalled!
Sun Jul  7 09:40:34 PM CEST 2024
Fan 0 stalled!
Sun Jul  7 09:40:35 PM CEST 2024
Fan 0 stalled!
Sun Jul  7 09:40:36 PM CEST 2024
Fan 0 stalled!
Sun Jul  7 09:40:37 PM CEST 2024
Fan 0 stalled!
Sun Jul  7 09:40:38 PM CEST 2024
Fan 0 stalled!
Sun Jul  7 09:40:39 PM CEST 2024
Fan 0 stalled!
Sun Jul  7 09:40:40 PM CEST 2024
Fan 0 stalled!
Sun Jul  7 09:40:41 PM CEST 2024
Fan 0 stalled!
Sun Jul  7 09:40:42 PM CEST 2024
Fan 0 stalled!
Sun Jul  7 09:40:43 PM CEST 2024
Fan 0 stalled!
Sun Jul  7 09:40:44 PM CEST 2024
Fan 0 stalled!
Sun Jul  7 09:40:45 PM CEST 2024
Fan 0 stalled!
Sun Jul  7 09:40:46 PM CEST 2024
Fan 0 stalled!
Sun Jul  7 09:40:47 PM CEST 2024
Fan 0 stalled!
Sun Jul  7 09:40:48 PM CEST 2024
Fan 0 stalled!
Sun Jul  7 09:40:49 PM CEST 2024
Fan 0 stalled!
Sun Jul  7 09:40:50 PM CEST 2024
Fan 0 stalled!

At the same time heard:

signal-2024-07-07-214221.mp3.zip

It seems to stop making the significant noise after a minute or two.

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If we detect this issue, then we could set the fan speed to 0.

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It especially does this workload-less issue when I use the laptop for the first time after waking up.

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Benjamin-Loison commented Aug 28, 2024 •
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Closing a VirtualBox virtual machine like Linux Mint 22 (trust) is very slow when the laptop is globally slow:

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It seems to less and less do the weird rotating sound these recent days.

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Well today it did it again.

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To avoid this issue when use my laptop for a few tens of seconds then suspend it and use it only once every 4 minutes for just taking note with nothing else running would be nice to accept fan speed being 0 manually and monitoring temperature to prevent ridiculous such event in public serious context as it was the case today but with luck I had not this ridiculous event but heard premise sound.

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Benjamin-Loison commented Dec 27, 2024 •
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grep -m 1 'model name' /proc/cpuinfo 
model name	: 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-1240P

https://frame.work/fr/en/products/heatsink-and-fan-kit?v=FRANFV0001 costs 45 €.

comes pre-applied with thermal paste

While it may solve the issue, the thermal paste may make hard to remove the given part and it may not be possible to leverage the previous thermal paste anymore but it is something quite common to buy if I remember correctly. We can buy some official one for 5$, see https://frame.work/products/thermal-paste.

Handles 28W continuous processor load and up to 60W turbo 65 x 5.5 mm cooling fan, 1800-6800 RPM Dual 5mm heat pipes Copper fin pack Pre-applied with Shin-Etsu 8117 thermal paste

Interesting to note that it supports between 1800 to 6800 RPM, but not less?

https://guides.frame.work/Guide/Heatsink+and+Fan+Replacement+Guide/84?lang=en#s316 to https://guides.frame.work/Guide/Heatsink+and+Fan+Replacement+Guide/84?lang=en#s321 are the meaningful instructions.

See the calendar event of 16/02/25 at 21:00.

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Related to Benjamin_Loison/windows/issues/54.

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These last days I face significant random intensity fan rotation while having not significant workload.

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I do not face this issue since a few hours.

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Benjamin-Loison commented Jan 3, 2025 •
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Well I face it again sometimes.

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When I move the laptop especially rotate it it seems to trigger the unwanted fan behavior.

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Benjamin-Loison commented Jan 9, 2025 •
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I fear opening my laptop near colleagues/relatives because of that.

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Benjamin-Loison commented Jan 14, 2025 •
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To be professional and not have weird fan sound laptop I may take my professional one and not personal one, while the latter can access the former but not the other way around.

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Benjamin-Loison commented Jan 23, 2025 •
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fwupdmgr update
Output: 
Idle…: 0%
Devices with no available firmware updates: 
 • System Firmware
 • UEFI Device Firmware
 • UEFI Device Firmware
 • WD BLACK SN850X 2000GB
No updatable devices

Related to Benjamin_Loison/fwupd/issues/2.

Can investigate ectool code if needed.

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Benjamin-Loison commented Jan 25, 2025 •
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sudo ectool pwmsetfanrpm 6000

may help to reduce fan heat. It would be nice that it is aware of physical fan limits, see #issuecomment-2563610799.

Should enable running this command with any rpm without having to provide password.

Benjamin_Loison/sudo/issues/5 would help, as already have visudo benjamin_loison ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /home/benjamin_loison/Desktop/bens_folder/dev/git/github/EmbeddedController/build/hx30/util/ectool pwmsetkblight 1.

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