Listening notification is dismissable

[alexhorner]

As seen in my screenshot, both Quasseldroid and Automate are undismissable (cannot be swiped away). Conversations and ntfy both are dismissable (can be swiped away) right now, and don't seem to reappear without killing them and starting them again. I don't think this is desirable because if you accidentally dismiss ntfy you technically can't tell it's running.

[binwiederhier]

Fascinating. I tried this in the emulator and this is true. Must be new in SDK 33. I always found it annoying that it cannot be dismissed, but now I kind of agree with you, it should not be dismissable.

[alexhorner]

Fascinating. I tried this in the emulator and this is true. Must be new in SDK 33. I always found it annoying that it cannot be dismissed, but now I kind of agree with you, it should not be dismissable.

I too used to find it annoying, until you think about it slightly differently and realise it's actually really important. I treat it like my system tray as if I was on a desktop computer. It gives me active visibility over my device and how things are going. It is of course essential that they're minimised though, because having an undismissable icon on my lockscreen and top bar of my device is infuriating.

[alexhorner]

Fascinating. I tried this in the emulator and this is true. Must be new in SDK 33. I always found it annoying that it cannot be dismissed, but now I kind of agree with you, it should not be dismissable.

You might be correct with the SDK version, actually. I think I know why too - they added a note to the task switcher to give you visibility, see below:

[binwiederhier]

I asked on Discord/Matrix, and people were mostly in favor of keeping the behavior like it is today. And after trying it out in the emulator, I agree. The "active apps" screen in the notification drawer shows that it's running, but it does not allow restoring the notification, and it invites the user to kill the app. So I'm going to set the setOngoing(true) flag manually in the next release.

[binwiederhier]

Done in binwiederhier/ntfy-android@1b587ab