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[Removal of notaries from the FIL+ Program]Abusive Behaviour Detected on 2008 - PikNik #946

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kenzz45 opened this issue Jul 22, 2023 · 16 comments
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kenzz45 commented Jul 22, 2023

Issue Description

@jamerduhgamer from PikNik signed this abusive application, Ignoring warnings from community members!

filecoin-project/filecoin-plus-large-datasets#2008
1、too much duplicate data
2、CID sharing within totally different datasets.

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Requesting immediate removal of abusive notaries who are involved in this application---PikNik (may be more)

@kenzz45 kenzz45 added the Proposal For Fil+ change proposals label Jul 22, 2023
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igoovo commented Jul 22, 2023

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Oriental culture has implicit characteristics, and your friends can't lose face to accuse you.
Change nickname to remind you that you have done a lot of violations of the rules and go around blaming others.

In addition, even if they are new to the fil network, don't they have the right to speak?

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Oriental culture has implicit characteristics, and your friends can't lose face to accuse you. Change nickname to remind you that you have done a lot of violations of the rules and go around blaming others.

In addition, even if they are new to the fil network, don't they have the right to speak?

I really can’t wait to get my holiday invitations to come spend time with you guys but shall we get back on topic?

No need to worry, in my place of the world everyone has a right to speak. The people even use real names, makes it much more comfortable…..

Regarding the complaint itself it is already answer by the filcoinplus governance team

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kenzz45 commented Jul 22, 2023

This is a typical case of a notary IGNORING the opinions of community members to force signatures. This type of behavior is exactly what the community is cracking down on these days.

@cryptowhizzard you haven't signed it, don't come interfering.

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This is a typical case of a notary IGNORING the opinions of community members to force signatures. This type of behavior is exactly what the community is cracking down on these days.

@cryptowhizzard you haven't signed it, don't come interfering.

2008 is my own application, notary rules state that you can’t sign your own applications.

Again, the governance team already responded to the claim and decided that it was ok to move on.

See here: #935 (comment)

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kenzz45 commented Jul 22, 2023

@cryptowhizzard
Don't you see the new flag raised by community members after the link comment you gave? And it may involve a serious notary collusion, which is a very sensitive matter.

Before this flag is reasonably explained, PikNik's forced signing is clearly an abuse. This is the common rule of the community.

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@cryptowhizzard Don't you see the new flag raised by community members after the link comment you gave?

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And it may involve a serious notary collusion, which is a very sensitive matter.

No, there is nothing like this.

Before this flag is reasonably explained, PikNik's forced signing is clearly an abuse. This is the common rule of the community.

It was already explained.

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With all due respect, the fact that more than 51% of notaries were unwilling to sign it for you is in itself an indication that the application was highly controversial. The Notary willing to take the risk of signing were naturally suspected of obtaining an undue commitment.The charges against piknik are well understandable.

In the community, we should respect consensus. You should learn to convince the other notaries, not threaten them by pressuring KevinZ on slack.

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In addition, the @Filplus-govteam account only represents the role of the public proposer from PL and can not represent the consensus of the community.

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c12xf commented Jul 23, 2023

As you mentioned earlier, having lunch or dinner together can earn your recognition; Did the notary also accept your bribe, so he took the risk of signing for you.

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kenzz45 commented Jul 23, 2023

Exposing a suspicious interaction between them: filecoin-project/filecoin-plus-large-datasets#388

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Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation and emotional abuse in which one person seeks to make another doubt their own perceptions, memory, judgment, or sanity. The term "gaslighting" originated from a play called "Gas Light" and later adapted into movies, where a husband manipulates his wife into believing she is going insane by dimming the gas lights in their home and then denying that the lights have changed when she mentions it.

In interpersonal relationships, gaslighting typically involves a pattern of behavior by the gaslighter that aims to undermine the victim's confidence and sense of reality. Some common tactics used in gaslighting include:

  1. Denial: The gaslighter denies that certain events happened or refuses to acknowledge their actions, even if there is evidence to the contrary.

  2. Minimization: They downplay the significance of the victim's feelings or experiences, making them feel like their emotions are unwarranted or exaggerated.

  3. Projection: The gaslighter attributes their own negative traits, behaviors, or actions to the victim, making the victim question their own behavior and character.

  4. Blatant lies: They tell outright lies to confuse the victim and make them doubt their memory and understanding of events.

  5. Withholding information: The gaslighter may withhold information to keep the victim in the dark and make them doubt their understanding of a situation.

  6. Shifting blame: They blame the victim for any problems or issues in the relationship, making the victim feel responsible for the gaslighter's behavior.

  7. Creating doubt: The gaslighter questions the victim's perception of reality, making them doubt their memory, judgment, or sanity.

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Closed for spamming and gaslighting bas on aforementioned evidence and lack of objective or useful arguments

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Who is gaslighting whom here?

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Who is gaslighting whom here?

That's what I'm wondering.

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KYCing new github account for LDN applications is one thing, I get that.

OP posted a valid technical governance question and immediately get blamed on because the account is new? Not cool.

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