diff --git a/extensions/elytron-security-jdbc/deployment/src/main/java/io/quarkus/elytron/security/jdbc/deployment/ElytronSecurityJdbcProcessor.java b/extensions/elytron-security-jdbc/deployment/src/main/java/io/quarkus/elytron/security/jdbc/deployment/ElytronSecurityJdbcProcessor.java
index 4b37ab6b3a991..141b3e0cac21e 100644
--- a/extensions/elytron-security-jdbc/deployment/src/main/java/io/quarkus/elytron/security/jdbc/deployment/ElytronSecurityJdbcProcessor.java
+++ b/extensions/elytron-security-jdbc/deployment/src/main/java/io/quarkus/elytron/security/jdbc/deployment/ElytronSecurityJdbcProcessor.java
@@ -5,6 +5,7 @@
 import org.wildfly.security.auth.server.SecurityRealm;
 
 import io.quarkus.agroal.deployment.DataSourceInitializedBuildItem;
+import io.quarkus.arc.deployment.BeanContainerBuildItem;
 import io.quarkus.deployment.annotations.BuildProducer;
 import io.quarkus.deployment.annotations.BuildStep;
 import io.quarkus.deployment.annotations.ExecutionTime;
@@ -40,6 +41,7 @@ FeatureBuildItem feature() {
     @Record(ExecutionTime.STATIC_INIT)
     void configureJdbcRealmAuthConfig(JdbcRecorder recorder,
             BuildProducer<SecurityRealmBuildItem> securityRealm,
+            BeanContainerBuildItem beanContainerBuildItem, //we need this to make sure ArC is initialized
             Optional<DataSourceInitializedBuildItem> dataSourceInitialized) throws Exception {
         if (jdbc.enabled) {
             RuntimeValue<SecurityRealm> realm = recorder.createRealm(jdbc);
diff --git a/extensions/elytron-security-jdbc/runtime/src/main/java/io/quarkus/elytron/security/jdbc/JdbcRecorder.java b/extensions/elytron-security-jdbc/runtime/src/main/java/io/quarkus/elytron/security/jdbc/JdbcRecorder.java
index 4eb7b47ca74b5..8baf6209befb8 100644
--- a/extensions/elytron-security-jdbc/runtime/src/main/java/io/quarkus/elytron/security/jdbc/JdbcRecorder.java
+++ b/extensions/elytron-security-jdbc/runtime/src/main/java/io/quarkus/elytron/security/jdbc/JdbcRecorder.java
@@ -41,9 +41,6 @@ public Provider[] get() {
     }
 
     private void registerPrincipalQuery(PrincipalQueryConfig principalQuery, JdbcSecurityRealmBuilder builder) {
-        if (Arc.container() == null) {
-            Arc.initialize();
-        }
         DataSource dataSource = (DataSource) principalQuery.datasource
                 .map(name -> Arc.container().instance(name).get())
                 .orElse(Arc.container().instance(DataSource.class).get());
diff --git a/extensions/elytron-security/deployment/src/main/java/io/quarkus/elytron/security/deployment/ElytronDeploymentProcessor.java b/extensions/elytron-security/deployment/src/main/java/io/quarkus/elytron/security/deployment/ElytronDeploymentProcessor.java
index 15b2156ae7c9c..7ae8ed0905087 100644
--- a/extensions/elytron-security/deployment/src/main/java/io/quarkus/elytron/security/deployment/ElytronDeploymentProcessor.java
+++ b/extensions/elytron-security/deployment/src/main/java/io/quarkus/elytron/security/deployment/ElytronDeploymentProcessor.java
@@ -51,6 +51,15 @@ void services(BuildProducer<ReflectiveClassBuildItem> classes) {
         classes.produce(new ReflectiveClassBuildItem(true, false, allClasses));
     }
 
+    @BuildStep
+    void addBeans(BuildProducer<AdditionalBeanBuildItem> beans) {
+
+        beans.produce(AdditionalBeanBuildItem.unremovableOf(ElytronSecurityDomainManager.class));
+        beans.produce(AdditionalBeanBuildItem.unremovableOf(ElytronTokenIdentityProvider.class));
+        beans.produce(AdditionalBeanBuildItem.unremovableOf(ElytronPasswordIdentityProvider.class));
+        beans.produce(AdditionalBeanBuildItem.unremovableOf(DefaultRoleDecoder.class));
+    }
+
     /**
      * Create the deployment SecurityDomain using the SecurityRealm build items that have been created.
      *
@@ -61,16 +70,9 @@ void services(BuildProducer<ReflectiveClassBuildItem> classes) {
      */
     @BuildStep
     @Record(ExecutionTime.STATIC_INIT)
-    SecurityDomainBuildItem build(ElytronRecorder recorder, List<SecurityRealmBuildItem> realms,
-            BuildProducer<AdditionalBeanBuildItem> beans)
+    SecurityDomainBuildItem build(ElytronRecorder recorder, List<SecurityRealmBuildItem> realms)
             throws Exception {
         if (realms.size() > 0) {
-
-            beans.produce(AdditionalBeanBuildItem.unremovableOf(ElytronSecurityDomainManager.class));
-            beans.produce(AdditionalBeanBuildItem.unremovableOf(ElytronTokenIdentityProvider.class));
-            beans.produce(AdditionalBeanBuildItem.unremovableOf(ElytronPasswordIdentityProvider.class));
-            beans.produce(AdditionalBeanBuildItem.unremovableOf(DefaultRoleDecoder.class));
-
             // Configure the SecurityDomain.Builder from the main realm
             SecurityRealmBuildItem realmBuildItem = realms.get(0);
             RuntimeValue<SecurityDomain.Builder> securityDomainBuilder = recorder
diff --git a/extensions/hibernate-orm/deployment/src/main/java/io/quarkus/hibernate/orm/deployment/HibernateOrmProcessor.java b/extensions/hibernate-orm/deployment/src/main/java/io/quarkus/hibernate/orm/deployment/HibernateOrmProcessor.java
index 8c998ba8ce85b..e534202a26c13 100644
--- a/extensions/hibernate-orm/deployment/src/main/java/io/quarkus/hibernate/orm/deployment/HibernateOrmProcessor.java
+++ b/extensions/hibernate-orm/deployment/src/main/java/io/quarkus/hibernate/orm/deployment/HibernateOrmProcessor.java
@@ -54,7 +54,6 @@
 import io.quarkus.deployment.annotations.BuildStep;
 import io.quarkus.deployment.annotations.Record;
 import io.quarkus.deployment.builditem.ApplicationArchivesBuildItem;
-import io.quarkus.deployment.builditem.ApplicationIndexBuildItem;
 import io.quarkus.deployment.builditem.ArchiveRootBuildItem;
 import io.quarkus.deployment.builditem.BytecodeTransformerBuildItem;
 import io.quarkus.deployment.builditem.CombinedIndexBuildItem;
@@ -126,7 +125,6 @@ public void build(RecorderContext recorderContext, HibernateOrmRecorder recorder
             List<NonJpaModelBuildItem> nonJpaModelBuildItems,
             List<IgnorableNonIndexedClasses> ignorableNonIndexedClassesBuildItems,
             CombinedIndexBuildItem index,
-            ApplicationIndexBuildItem applicationIndex,
             ArchiveRootBuildItem archiveRoot,
             ApplicationArchivesBuildItem applicationArchivesBuildItem,
             Optional<DataSourceDriverBuildItem> driverBuildItem,