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GPL-892 Look at gains from using centralized ELK logging from FCE (C=M,V=2*) #119

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rl15 opened this issue Feb 16, 2021 · 2 comments
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rl15 commented Feb 16, 2021

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Look at gains from using centralized ELK logging from FCE

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Brett H (ICT)

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This backlog item was raised in response to presentation to ICT town hall on 2nd February - see Rich L, (Friday, 12 February 2021 at 12:22) Subject: FW: Recording was Re: Todays Town Hall

Brett H wrote (Monday, 15 February 2021 at 09:25) Abridged

See; https://ssg-confluence.internal.sanger.ac.uk/display/OPENSTACK/Using+ELK+to+centralise+logging

Gains

  1. remove duplication of effort and quota, but we are
  2. Sanger looking at getting a Platinum licence for this deployment which would give us new features: https://www.elastic.co/subscriptions

Costs

The centralised elk does have the disadvantage that we can't give the manage_index_templates permission to users (because it's per-cluster, so you could theoretically change anyone's templates), so if you have frequently changing templates, it may not be the best answer.

I did report this to elastic last year, but it's had very little movement: elastic/elasticsearch#53110

Questions

  • How do you use your ELK stack?
  • Beats, syslog, individual index access?
  • If you would like an account, let me know the name and email you want associated with it and I'll set it up for you.
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Find out if there are limits on the amount of logging allowed - we are worried we might flood it

@pjvv pjvv changed the title GPL-892 Look at gains from using centralized ELK logging from FCE GPL-892 Look at gains from using centralized ELK logging from FCE (C=M,V=2*) Jun 23, 2021
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ashaith commented Jul 5, 2021

We cannot give manage_index_templates role to the user coz it has very broad access (like template delete privileges). Our requirement is the user needs to list the available template using "indices:admin/template/get".

@harrietc52 harrietc52 added the Docker OKR: Development and deployment improvements label Oct 7, 2021
@SujitDey2022 SujitDey2022 closed this as not planned Won't fix, can't repro, duplicate, stale Jan 26, 2023
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