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«noı» #81

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uakci opened this issue Feb 9, 2020 · 1 comment
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«noı» #81

uakci opened this issue Feb 9, 2020 · 1 comment
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meaning change proposal Not just a mere enhancement of the definition: the meaning of the word is changed.

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uakci commented Feb 9, 2020

I believe that there are several issues with noı. It does not fit the usual scheme: kıeq is not ‘disgust’, but ’be disgusted’; foı is not ‘boredom’, but ‘be bored’ (as was fixed; see #12); tea is not ‘fear’, but ‘to fear’. And while the argument could be made that pain is not an emotion insofar as all the above, abstract nouns are uncommon in the vocabulary (and rightfully so — it's harder to reify an abstract than it is to abstract a concrete relation out). There's also another failing parallel: bıa ‘x₁ is sick with x₂ (a property; see #2)’.

I propose that noı becomes ‘x₁ feels pain at x₂’ (previously noılīe), taking one of the following two frames: c e or c 1. Both allow for easy serialization (noı hủohūa ‘hurt in the ear’), but the former also allows one to supply a baq. (I believe, though, that baq or, worse yet, ke where a property would've enabled maximum precision with minimal effort is wasteful.)

As always, @solpahi's comments are welcome.

@Ntsekees Ntsekees added the meaning change proposal Not just a mere enhancement of the definition: the meaning of the word is changed. label Feb 25, 2020
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Ntsekees commented Mar 10, 2020

x1 feels pain. would pattern after x1 is disgusted.;
x1 feels pain at locus x2. would pattern after x1 is disgusted by x2.

But I agree that noı should pattern like the others.

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