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Gap in the tua/shy/boq/etc series #97

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acotis opened this issue Jun 27, 2020 · 3 comments
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Gap in the tua/shy/boq/etc series #97

acotis opened this issue Jun 27, 2020 · 3 comments

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@acotis
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acotis commented Jun 27, 2020

When it comes to making things happen, there are at least four ways to do it: cause something, prevent something, refrain from causing something, or refrain from preventing something. Additionally, there are two types of causes: actors who affect the world with their actions, and states of affairs that lead to other states of affairs.

Consider the following:

  • Cause: agentive tua, non-agentive ca
  • Prevent: agentive ?, non-agentive boq
  • Don't cause: agentive ?, non-agentive ?
  • Don't prevent: agentive shy, non-agentive ?

As you can see, there are gaps in this table. Now, all of the gaps can be filled in by serializing bu with words that are present. In fact, you can always do it with bu on the left and one of these words on the right, which is even cleaner. But if you want to go that route, then probably the top four entries should be filled in and the bottom four should be constructed with bu. Relative to that solution, the status quo has shy being "out of place".

@xorxes
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xorxes commented Aug 14, 2021

What's the difference between shy and shoe?

@acotis
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acotis commented Aug 14, 2021

I believe shy is simply the new word for this concept, which was added once y became allowed.

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lynn commented Aug 12, 2022

Seoqrea suggests zua for agentive preventing. I think it's sort of a good idea.

I think shoe has nothing to do with the first four words, and allowing something is different from not preventing it.

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