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Management Process for DID Spec Registries after DID WG ends #149

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msporny opened this issue Nov 2, 2020 · 6 comments
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Management Process for DID Spec Registries after DID WG ends #149

msporny opened this issue Nov 2, 2020 · 6 comments
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msporny commented Nov 2, 2020

The group needs to decide on a management process for the DID Spec Registries after the DID WG's Charter ends.

Discussion leading up to this issue can be found here: w3c/did#58

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msporny commented Nov 2, 2020

PROPOSAL: Manage the DID Spec Registries in the same way that the VC Data Model Registries are managed. The W3C CCG has a registries management process. We should copy that and allow that CG to maintain the registries as it is active in the space and contains many experts that would be able to do thorough review and management of the registries.

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iherman commented Nov 3, 2020

PROPOSAL: this Working Group maintains the registry until the end of its charter. The Working Group plans to request the management of W3C to submit a charter for a maintenance DID Working Group to the W3C Advisory Committee as a successor to this Working Group. Per the planned charter of that Working Group, that group would officially manage the registry, and would do that in cooperation with the CCG.

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similar yet corollary issue. How to automate the formal process of DID method registration once the WG ends and make it sync with the ADM? see: #152

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iherman commented Dec 18, 2020

The issue was discussed in a meeting on 2020-12-17

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  • Resolution No. 1: The DID Working Group will maintain the DID Spec Registries until the end of its charter. The DID Working Group plans to request the management of W3C to submit a charter for a maintenance DID Working Group to the W3C Advisory Committee as a successor to this Working Group. Per the planned charter of that Working Group, that group would officially manage the registry, and would do that in cooperation with the W3C Credentials Community Group.
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1. Registry ownership and maintenance roadmap

See github issue #58, did-spec-registries#149.

Brent Zundel: we have a large enough group to get started.
… manu and ivan have proposals to put before the group.

Ivan Herman: let me try to summarise some things that were discussed.
… there were two issues that were used for the same problem.
… (58 and 149).
… the Registries is published as w3c working group note.
… the first thing that's very formal is that only a WG has the right to reissue a note.
… if we do any kind of update on the Spec Registries there must be a WG or the Team to republish a note.
… this is the first thing we should not forget..
… the second is that by now we have this practice of having continuation working groups which have to be approved by the AC, so it is always conditional.
… but my mental model is that this WG when it finishes will create a continuation WG.
… but probably only maintenance.
… this is something we can decide later.
… that seems to be a natural place which formally speaking maintains the registry and has the right to republish it and do things.
… this is the formal part..
… In practice, the same way as we have in other groups, there is a CG somewhere in the background which is active because the WG will not have regular meetings.
… and that's how I came up with the proposal.
… for me this is a clear path, and no disagreement with mike who is adamant on saying the w3c must continue to have control over the registry which I agree with.
… and there are practicalities to work out, and what the CG process is.
… but that's way down the line, not something we have to worry about right now.

Manu Sporny: agree with ivan.
… I did a minor reword of the original proposal to align it with the others.
… I'd like to see if we can get ivan's proposal passed, that shortcuts a lot of the other discussions we could have.
… there are other things that have come up wrt the registries.
… one has to do with a copyright trademark/legal concerns.
… the other has to do with security and privacy concerns.
… and how much power the registry editors have to say no.
… we've traditionally had the position that we can't block anything from getting in.
… and some of our members rightly pointed out that no that's really dangerous to not be able to stop things that are racist, trademark violations, a whole class of things we would not want.
… being able to say no is important.
… if the editors can say no, people have said they want a process that allows them to override the editors, what is the escalation process.
… so the proposals are meant to address all of those questions when we put them forward.

Ivan Herman: we should try to separate those things.
… the proposal I had was on the ownership of the registry.
… and the way it is managed later.
… that is something that can be agreed upon.
… and then we can get it out of the way.
… the second question you have is regardless of that problem. We have to discuss it, but it's a separate issue.

Manu Sporny: +1.

Brent Zundel: I think we can put those proposals forward.

Proposed resolution: The DID Working Group will maintain the DID Spec Registries until the end of its charter. The DID Working Group plans to request the management of W3C to submit a charter for a maintenance DID Working Group to the W3C Advisory Committee as a successor to this Working Group. Per the planned charter of that Working Group, that group would officially manage the registry, and would do that in cooperation with the W3C Credentials. (Ivan Herman)

Manu Sporny: +1.

Orie Steele: +1.

Shigeya Suzuki: +1.

Amy Guy: +1.

Proposed resolution: The DID Working Group will maintain the DID Spec Registries until the end of its charter. The DID Working Group plans to request the management of W3C to submit a charter for a maintenance DID Working Group to the W3C Advisory Committee as a successor to this Working Group. Per the planned charter of that Working Group, that group would officially manage the registry, and would do that in cooperation with the W3C Credentials Community Group. (Ivan Herman)

Manu Sporny: +1.

Ivan Herman: +1.

Shigeya Suzuki: +1.

Joe Andrieu: +1.

Amy Guy: +1.

Drummond Reed: +1.

Brent Zundel: +1.

Resolution #1: The DID Working Group will maintain the DID Spec Registries until the end of its charter. The DID Working Group plans to request the management of W3C to submit a charter for a maintenance DID Working Group to the W3C Advisory Committee as a successor to this Working Group. Per the planned charter of that Working Group, that group would officially manage the registry, and would do that in cooperation with the W3C Credentials Community Group.

Ivan Herman: we should be formal, this is a long term commitment. The resolution of this call is not formal, so that should be reaffirmed by the WG next week if possible.

Brent Zundel: will add to agenda.

Ivan Herman: should be administrative, but prefer to have something like that.

Drummond Reed: +1 to have this reaffirmed in the full WG meeting.

Brent Zundel: next tuesday is last calls of the year, normal call and special topic call.
… and it's an asia time call... which means there is no special topic call....
… just one next Tuesday.

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msporny commented Aug 3, 2021

This is resolved. Closing.

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iherman commented Aug 3, 2021

The issue was discussed in a meeting on 2021-08-03

  • no resolutions were taken
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5.4. Management Process for DID Spec Registries after DID WG ends (issue did-spec-registries#149)

See github issue did-spec-registries#149.

Brent Zundel: management process after the WG ends..
… proposals, discussed, resolution
… anything more?

Manu Sporny: can close

Ivan Herman: charter text is along the line of this resolution

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