TTWG Meeting 2018-11-22 #5
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This meeting is scheduled for up to 120 minutes.
Please be ready for a prompt start at 15:03am UTC time.
Our teleconference is scheduled with reference to UTC Time, the correct time of this teleconference in your locale may change.
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Thursdays 15:03am-17:00pm UTC
Joining details:
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Agenda+ Assign Roles
Chairs: Nigel Megitt
Scribe: usually Nigel – open to offers!
Regrets: Glenn, Cyril, Andreas
Activity since last meeting:
See individual agenda items for recent activity on specific products
Cross-product TTWG board: http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/board/
We are still using tracker for actions unrelated to issues.
Please do not add or modify issues in tracker!
Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead
Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest, subject to reordering:
Reminder re future milestones and meetings:
November meetings:
Thursday 29th November: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s) (query NM availability)
Further ahead:
Thursday 6th December: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Thursday 13th December: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s) (query NM availability)
Thursday 20th December: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Thursday 27th December: No meeting
Thursday 3rd January: No meeting
Agenda+ Joint f2f meeting with EBU Timed Text, Jan 2019
State of planning, topics for agenda.
Wiki page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/F2F-jan-2019
Agenda+ TTML Profile Registry
Recent Activity
No pull requests opened or merged, or issues opened or closed, over the past week.
Pull requests for review (to discuss if requested)
Pull requests open for longer than that:
w3c/tt-profile-registry#47 Add reference to IMSC 1.0.1
w3c/tt-profile-registry#48 Fix the media type in the abstract
w3c/tt-profile-registry#50 Fix #42 and #43
w3c/tt-profile-registry#54 Reorder tables alphabetically (#51).
No issues created over the past week.
No issues or pull requests currently marked for the agenda.
Links
TTML Profile Registry issues labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/labels/agenda :
TTML Profile Registry editor's draft: https://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/
TTML Profile Registry repository: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry
Agenda+ TTWG Future Requirements
Links
TTWG Requirements repo: https://github.com/w3c/tt-reqs
Recent Activity
No Issues created
1 issue closed:
w3c/tt-reqs#5 Create TTWG Charter 2019
2 Pull requests merged by 2 people:
w3c/tt#7 Add directory (with template) for TTML2 2e requirement proposals.
w3c/tt#6 Removed Patent Policy bits
Pull requests for review (to discuss if requested)
No pull requests currently open.
No issues or pull requests currently marked for the agenda.
Links
TTWG Requirements issues labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/tt-reqs/labels/agenda
Agenda+ TTML1 Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
Actions
No actions due in tracker.
Recent Activity
No pull requests or issues opened or closed. No pull requests open for longer than a week.
New (and old) Issues to Discuss
No issues opened over the last week, no issues marked for the agenda.
(Plus unresolved issues with ongoing conversations, to be confirmed.)
Links
TTML1 issues and pull requests labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/labels/agenda
TTML1 issues blocked: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/labels/blocked
Current open issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues
TTML1 Tests repo: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1-tests
Agenda+ TTML2 Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
Actions
No actions recorded on tracker.
Recent Activity
No pull requests open for longer than a week. No issues opened or closed this week.
New (and old) Issues and Pull Requests to discuss:
(Plus unresolved issues with ongoing conversations, to be confirmed.)
TTML2 issues and pull requests labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/labels/agenda
There are no issues currently labelled for the Agenda.
Links
Current ED available at https://w3c.github.io/ttml2/
Current open issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues
See spreadsheet of editorial actions at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/ednotes.xlsx
Edit/build instructions now in README in ttml2/spec/ at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/README.md
Agenda+ IMSC Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
Actions
None in tracker.
Recent Activity
No pull requests opened for longer than a week.
No issues opened or closed in the last week.
New (and old) Issues to Discuss
No issues or pull requests currently labelled as agenda.
Links
IMSC issues and pull requests labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/labels/agenda :
IMSC issues blocked: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/labels/blocked
IMSC Implementation Page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_implementation_page.
IMSC Tests repository: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-tests
Unicode CLDR discussion
Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915
Pierre's response to the recent update is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915#comment:9
Email response from Shervin at Unicode https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0018.html
Agenda+ CSS actions review
Response to Elika's email of 4th October at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2018Oct/0011.html
Do the updates to CSS Text address the requirements we put forward for presentation of subtitles and captions?
For reference, we have the following CSS issues open:
w3c/csswg-drafts#1975 [css-sizing][css-align][css-text] Aligning an aligned block of text within its container
w3c/csswg-drafts#1974 [css-inline] Allow background of an inline area to extend to before-and after-edges of the line area
w3c/csswg-drafts#1973 [css-inline][css-text-4] Allow padding to be applied at line start and end
w3c/csswg-drafts#2983 Support for shearing of lines and inline elements
Additionally the following CSS issues may be of interest:
w3c/csswg-drafts#2869 [css-fonts-4] oblique angle for synthesis in vertical text
w3c/csswg-drafts#814 [css-inline] Define the content area of inline boxes
Are CSS issues filed for all style attributes for which we believe CSS work is needed?
See also https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2017Nov/0109.html
CSS WG review
Minutes from TTWG and CSS WG joint meeting at TPAC 2017: https://www.w3.org/2017/11/09-tt-minutes.html#item35
Minutes from CSS WG Paris F2F that Nigel attended remotely on Friday 4th August 2017: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Sep/0000.html
This is at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/CSSRequirements
TAG design review issue: w3ctag/design-reviews#138
CSS Review of TTML2, threads: FW: TTML2 horizontal review with CSS and Fwd: Subtitle/caption styling + TTML + CSS
CSS 2.2 request for reviews from TTWG et al: Pre-announcement of CR for CSS 2.2 & request for reviews When can we schedule a review and gather feedback?
Agenda+ WebVTT
Actions
None in tracker
Links
WebVTT Wide review wiki page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebVTT_Wide_Review
Activity
No pull requests proposed or closed this period.
5 pull requests open for longer than a week:
w3c/webvtt#439 Fix some links from the linkchecker and the broken process document link
w3c/webvtt#430 Fontsize changes
w3c/webvtt#434 Add a definition of "video viewport" and how it relates in HTML5 to object size resolution.
w3c/webvtt#438 Update CLA and License agreement
w3c/webvtt#419Timeranges
No other (meaningful) issues created this period.
Agenda+ AOB
References
Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
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