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Montserrate Update #39

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ghost opened this issue Feb 9, 2017 · 27 comments
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Montserrate Update #39

ghost opened this issue Feb 9, 2017 · 27 comments

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@ghost
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ghost commented Feb 9, 2017

I'm not sure if I like the new changes made to Montserrat on google webfonts. https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Montserrat

I love the fact that new styles were added and that Montserrat has grown. What I don't like is that the 'normal' font weight of the previous version is nowhere to be found in the new version. The closest one is 500(Medium), but that one is slightly bolder.

To sum things up: the 400 font weight of the previous version should have been the 500 of this one.

@yougotashovel
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Agreed, i added the same issue a few hours ago, was told to check previous versions, but the update to Google Fonts is annoying. I like using Google Fonts delivery for speed.

@uiuxworks
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uiuxworks commented Feb 10, 2017

Have to agree with both of you the 400 is too thin now

this is how the old 400 looked
http://puu.sh/tWcr9/3b1e0eecea.png

I have to use 500 to get it look the same but it's not that good
http://puu.sh/tWcsN/de867ac980.png

also I was using this font cdn http://brick.im/fonts/montserrat/ (not googles)

any chance I can get the old font files and just upload them my self as the brick.im/google ones aren't up to scratch

love the font by the way , It's better than proxima nova in my opinion.

thanks

@davelab6
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I will say that looking at https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Montserrat I think the Regular is much heavier than its italic, which is not good.

screen shot 2017-02-09 at 18 30 59

@davelab6
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any chance I can get the old font files and just upload them my self as the brick.im/google ones aren't up to scratch

Fonts are living things; which are the 'old' ones that are 'up to scratch'? =)

@rusrus
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rusrus commented Feb 10, 2017

I so liked the "old" 400 Montserrat. Would love to have that back. The new 400 is too faint. The new 500 is too strong.

@davelab6
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I hope the monserrat team can explain the reason they reduced the weight of the 400 here :)

@JulietaUla
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Hello!

We’ve been working in the last years, with a great team, in the extension of the Montserrat typeface: different languages, quantity of weights and italics.
One of the goals was to achieve an optimum redistribution in 9 weights. The first step was to adjust the weight of the Regular. After several tests we consider that the new one performs better on screen and improves the typographic color program. We have Regular and Medium now.

Google Fonts will only have the latest Montserrat available, but the one who wants to use the previous one is free to download it and use it self-hosted with @ font-face (it does not count with the advances of languages, weights and italics).

@juandelperal
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@davelab6 are you sure you don't have an old version installed in your system?
Here it's what I see:
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@ghost
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ghost commented Feb 11, 2017

@JulietaUla Thank you for response. I see your point and would like to make a suggestion. Would it be possible to release the previous version of Montserrat on google webfonts separate from the new one. Sort of like 'Montserrat Legacy' indicating its the older and preferred version for many. If users prefer the old version of Montserrat they can easily use it like before. I know users can download and use the old Montserrat, but that would defeat the purpose of why many go with google webfonts, which is cache, efficiency and simplicity.

@JulietaUla
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JulietaUla commented Feb 11, 2017 via email

@davelab6
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Maybe the medium could be updated to match the old regular?

@rusrus
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rusrus commented Feb 14, 2017

@JulietaUla @juandelperal

I would like to use the previous Montserrat and self-host it with @ font-face -

Where do I download this?
Is the previous version v2.001?
Does it contain the .woff2 and .woff formats?

Thank You

@juandelperal
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#40 #38
We added the 1.0 version to the repo.
Please download and self host.
https://github.com/JulietaUla/Montserrat/releases/tag/v1.0

@DanielMcPhee
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@juandelperal: the 1.0 repo doesn't appear to include .woff2. Any chance on an update?

@juandelperal
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@DanielMcPhee updated!

@DanielMcPhee
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@juandelperal thanks!

@davelab6
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davelab6 commented Feb 20, 2017 via email

@danyj
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danyj commented Feb 20, 2017

@davelab6 yes font was installed cache cleared from all browsers but Chrome was simply not playing along if you using the font in WordPress and are logged in as admin .

I was forced to completely clear all Chrome cache. Dev tools cache clear or previous 4/7 days clear did not work. I see this being an issue for many users. There should have been Montserrat v2 to save everyone the trouble.

@davelab6
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davelab6 commented Feb 21, 2017 via email

@danyj
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danyj commented Feb 21, 2017

All in all , thank you for the great font and additional weights! ( should have started with that )

@DanielMcPhee
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DanielMcPhee commented Feb 23, 2017

I understand that you care about this. But of the millions of users only a
few have complained or even commented at all; if there is a huge outcry
with 1,000s of people petitioning me I'd think I made a poor decision. But
I don't see this, so, I think I made the right decision.

@davelab6 - to be fair, many won't know to complain because they've got the old font versions installed locally.

@davelab6
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davelab6 commented Feb 24, 2017 via email

@DanielMcPhee
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DanielMcPhee commented Mar 2, 2017

Their users would complain to them, though, without having the fonts
installed

@davelab6 - I'd say their users won't really know the difference though. It doesn't make the font illegible - it makes them different.

@danyj
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danyj commented Mar 3, 2017

@davelab6 , this is what I am afraid of and would like input on it ,

users have old font installed ,

I release theme that is using Montserrat from Google fonts and theme is using 200 and 300 font weights ,

are the users with old font going to get fresh copy pull from Google and see the theme as I intended or are they going to see the only old 400 and 600 weights until they install new font?

@danyj
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danyj commented Apr 29, 2017

@JulietaUla this is exactly what I was talking about in my previous post

the font new version has been released long time ago , on one of my machines I have not unistalled/reinstalled the font and on the other I did

these are same headings on 2 diff machines with regular weight

screenshot_15

and these are buttons using regular font size and weight
screenshot_16

, as you can see one is heavier than the other which is making huge difference in design.

so you are expecting us to tell everyone on the net to uninstall and reinstall old Montserat in order for designers/developers to be able to use all other sizes that you have made.

You should release V2 because currently the font is not reliable.

@juandelperal
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@danyj Are you using fixed width buttons?
Anyway. The v2 version is here: https://github.com/JulietaUla/Montserrat/releases/tag/v2.001

@danyj
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danyj commented May 2, 2017

@juandelperal , no , they padded

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