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Remove italic font-style from large quote block #30530

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Remove italic font-style from large quote block

Fixes #22305.

As mentioned in the above issue, styling the font-style of large quotes is really opinionated and should be let for themes. Currently, some default WordPress themes already overwrite this in their own styles; so it makes sense to remove it in Gutenberg styles.

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  • [NA] I've updated all React Native files affected by any refactorings/renamings in this PR (please manually search all *.native.js files for terms that need renaming or removal).

@JustinyAhin JustinyAhin requested a review from ajitbohra as a code owner April 6, 2021 14:02
@JustinyAhin JustinyAhin added [Block] Quote Affects the Quote Block CSS Styling Related to editor and front end styles, CSS-specific issues. labels Apr 6, 2021
@JustinyAhin JustinyAhin requested a review from youknowriad April 6, 2021 14:04
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youknowriad commented Apr 6, 2021

Style variations are meant to be opinionated, so it's not an issue for me to have opinionated styles in these. That said for this particular one, let's get designer feedback on this PR.

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kjellr commented Apr 6, 2021

I don't personally have an issue with removing the italic here — It definitely does negate the ability for users to set the text to be italic using the UI controls.

I do have a little concern about changing it at this point though: this will definitely adjust the appearance of quotes on the front-end of many existing sites. I'd love a gut check from another designer regarding that concern.

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Thanks so much @JustinyAhin for triage through PR — there is literally no better way of moving things forward than that 🏅

I would echo both Kjell and Riad entirely, italic or not is fine. Having opinionated styles is fine too.

I would add that the italic on the large quote is block level, whereas the italic button in the toolbar is inline level, which means it actually outputs <em> tags. In other words, the opinionated style is decorative, the other is semantic. And so arguably everything is working as intended.

However one thing you could do is this:

	&.is-style-large,
	&.is-large {

		...

		p {
			font-size: 1.5em;
			line-height: 1.6;
			font-style: italic;

			em {
				font-style: normal;
			}
		}

		...

	}
}

What that would do is unset the italic style just for the stuff inside marked italic. I know that seems a little inverted, but I could swear I've seen this before in text editors like Word and Docs, where a preset template style might default to italic, and the explicit button unsetting that.

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kjellr commented Apr 9, 2021

I would add that the italic on the large quote is block level, whereas the italic button in the toolbar is inline level, which means it actually outputs <em> tags. In other words, the opinionated style is decorative, the other is semantic. And so arguably everything is working as intended.

Yeah, but that's a weird distinction for users. I think that with upcoming features like #30469, it'll be easy to feature block patterns that use the semantic italic styles here, so it seems fine to remove this.

My only concern is just the impact this style removal would have on existing sites. I wonder if a more backwards-compatible approach would be to remove this "Large Quote" block style entirely, but keep the CSS for existing sites. And replace it with a block pattern that works with #30469 instead.

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I have nothing to add to the discussion about the technical implementation but would like to add to the conversation that WCAG Understanding Guideline 3.1 includes an advisory technique for “avoiding chunks of italic text”. Similarly, WebAIM advises as follows: “Do not use italics or bold on long sections of text”.

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