Please make deno simple(installation) as you download an app( like exe file)

[fisforfaheem]

it would help a lot, also make it faster i dont wanna learn node.js

[rafaelferres]

Hi @fisforfaheem,
I also agree with you. I took the liberty of creating an MSI deno installer.
https://github.com/rafaelferres/deno-windows-installer

[theoludwig]

Agreed, the installation should be as simple as Node.js.

[Yamboy1]

I'm coming here from a Linux point of view rather than windows, but can I ask what's so hard about running a single command in the command prompt to install deno, considering that you need to use the command prompt / powershell to use deno anyway?

[theoludwig]

I don't mind, I didn't have problem to install Deno but I don't see why they don't make a .exe file as they did for node.js.

[alisabzevari]

Also, Microsoft announced Windows official package manager called winget. It looks like they accept msi or exe in their manifests. So, it makes sense to package deno as an executable for Windows.

[rafaelferres]

I think having two problems solved or all! So I created these MSI installers

[fisforfaheem]

MSI is the best way, it clearly shows everything in visual way....we are living in 2020 not everything should be 30 years old..i menat use of command line it sucks...thats why people use windows 10 instead of hardcore fans who like Linux

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[sholladay]

To all the downvoters, I just want to point out that OP's profile mentions that they are trying to learn programming. They're just a beginner. Deno is not yet beginner friendly in a number of ways, including its installation process. We should try to be understanding. I also think English may not be their native language (?). It's quite possible that their comment comes off as more rude than intended.

The command line is significantly more fluid and powerful for experienced programmers. But that's not immediately obvious when first learning it.

[fisforfaheem]

Thanks bro, for supporting me, much appreciated. Being a beginner VS studio windows forms apps builder, Command line seems so difficult to me, not everyone should be allowed to use it, Their should be an option for GUI based stuff too. I never used linux *tried ubuntu but didnt liked it. I believe we should make things easier. not only productive

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On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 8:53 AM Seth Holladay ***@***.***> wrote: To all the downvoters, I just want to point out that OP's profile mentions that they are trying to learn programming. They're just a beginner. Deno is not yet beginner friendly in a number of ways, including its installation process. We should try to be understanding. I also think English may not be their native language (?). It's quite possible that their comment comes off as more rude than intended. The command line is significantly more fluid and powerful for experienced programmers. But that's not immediately obvious when first learning it. — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#5727 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AIRXJSBFUU7KMA6IMRXEYJTRTCK25ANCNFSM4NHGGFFQ> .

[MarkTiedemann]

I don't see why they don't make a .exe file as they did for node.js.

I think there's a misunderstanding here.

As it says on the frontpage of the website: "Ships only a single executable file."

A Deno release for Windows is shipped in a .zip file. For example, the version 1.0.2 release lists the following .zip file that can be downloaded on Windows: deno-x86_64-pc-windows-msvc.zip

If you download the .zip, you can right click it, and choose "Extract All...". Open the extracted folder, and you will find deno.exe. You can double-click deno.exe and you'll be in the Deno read-eval-print-loop, and can start typing and executing JS.

All that the installer does for you is download the .zip (as you can do manually), extract the .zip (as you can do manually), and put the location of the .zip into your path so you can run deno.exe or just deno from the command line, rather than having to type the full path, e.g. C:\some-path\deno.exe (as you can do manually, too).

The installer is just for convenience. So you don't have to do those 3 things yourself, but rather the installer will do it for you.

Then again, "installer" is kind of the wrong term on Windows at least. There's no setup.exe or setup.msi or anything like that needed here. It's just an .exe file in a .zip file.

The only thing that I think could be done to make it even more simple is to just ship the .exe file without zipping it. But then again, the download will last longer...

[littledivy]

@fisforfaheem If you hate command lines, how will you even run a Deno script? (Assuming you don't want an executable for that too)

we are living in 2020 not everything should be 30 years old

Wdym by that? It is wrong to say cmds are 30 years old! How do you think people made Deno anyway?

[Yamboy1]

@MarkTiedemann I think this misunderstanding, which is a perfect description, is due to how installation is depicted by a majority of a windows users. This comes back to what "install" actually means. If we go to the man page for the install command on linux, it says this "install - copy files and set attributes". The reality is that installation is not just the matter of downloading an executable, in this case an exe, but also copying it into a directory on the PATH, so it can be run from any folder in the command line, and also in most cases to create a start menu shortcut, which is less applicable, but is still not a terrible thing to do.

In the case of windows, most people are still used to the idea of "installers" which handle all of this, and it's fair to say that deno is lacking in an installer. Sure you can download the binary, but that means you have to be in the downloads folder every time you run the application, and you have to add .exe on the end. As a linux user, I personally don't think I could live without my "installers", i.e. the package manager.

This thread has gotten a bit toxic in my opinion (even I got caught in it), and has deviated from what the real issue is, the fact that there is no simple exe installer, which is honestly the norm on windows. A command line approach such as using iwr / wget makes a lot of sense from a linux perspective, but imo it's worth thinking about how we can make the deno installation more ergonomic on windows, so that it fits in better with the general windows ecosystem.

Just my 2c.

[fisforfaheem]

Thanks everyone for support, and Love, Hope to learn deno on *windows 10( simple and productive .period). *linux is love too but without that bash thingy...