[Feature] Core: Python 3.12 wheel

[austinnichols101]

Description

Add support for Ray with python 3.12

Python 3.12.0 final released on Monday, 2023-10-02.

Use case

• The asyncio package has had a number of performance improvements, with some benchmarks showing a 75% speed up.

• Replace the builtin hashlib implementations of SHA1, SHA3, SHA2-384, SHA2-512, and MD5 with formally verified code from the HACL* project. These builtin implementations remain as fallbacks that are only used when OpenSSL does not provide them.

• CPython support for the Linux perf profiler

• Stack overflow protection on supported platforms

https://docs.python.org/3.12/whatsnew/3.12.html

[EwoutH]

I would find Python 3.12 support including wheels also very welcome!

[dss010101]

how is this going? it's the only thing that is pinning us to 3.11.x
rebuilding our amazon ami linux based container and seeing this:

#0 2.371 ERROR: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement ray[default] (from versions: none)

[Zmrzka]

same here, ray is last library that is holding us on 3.11

[dss010101]

are we still pinned < 3.12? feel this should be higher priority as you're asking devs to choose between the language or your library.

[virtualluke]

Can any devs speak to a rough timeframe for 3.12 support?

[MehulBatra]

any updates on this, when can we expect Python3.12 support?

[cclauss]

@can-anyscale Given Python 3.12's substantial performance improvements in asyncio and several other modules, can we please understand what are the blockers to migrating to Py3.12?

Is Python 3.12 compatibility related to #41373 or are there unrelated todos?

[can-anyscale]

Hi @cclauss and folks, it's exciting to see the community enthusiasm for Python 3.12. We are still behind on this. At this point, we are focusing on supporting ray-ml for python 3.11 (as you might know, ray supports the release of 3 artifacts ray, ray docker and ray-ml docker, and we are way too overdue for the ray-ml community), which is planned for 2.11 the latest (#42343). The plan is to look into Python 3.12 after that. CC: @richardliaw

[dss010101]

any further updates?

[MARMOTatZJU]

+1, I wish to move to ray rllib for its efficiency in RL training. But my project needs Python>=3.12.

[can-anyscale]

Please follow #42343 first for the support of ml/rllib for python 3.11. Note that python 3.11 is already supported for ray-core. We'll work on supoprting python 3.12 after that.

[abitrolly]

With #42343 closed, what is left to get Ray for Python 3.12 out?

[dss010101]

unfortunately, we went back to python multi-processing. ray is feeling a bit neglected and that's concerning for a production system. A shame cause i did see the benefits of it and sold it to the team....problem now is given the project is in prod...its hard sell to go back .

[can-anyscale]

Hi folks, thank you for your continuous interest. We take it seriously that Ray continues to be your top choices for building ML applications. We're actively discussing this internally, and I hope to provide you all with a more concrete timeline for the upgrade this week or next.

[anyscalesam]

@dss010101 could we follow up on Ray Slack; would love to learn more about your go to production plans and how we could help.

My handle is "anyscalesam"

[alkment]

@can-anyscale

Any update ?

[can-anyscale]

hi yes, @aslonnie will oversee the overall upgrading effort going forward; CC: @jjyao for python 3.12 upgrade in particular, my understanding is somewhere between June 1st-15th

[cclauss]

Given that Python 3.13 beta is now released, can the automated tests also be started on that?

• https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3130b1/

[tonal]

#45477

[anyscalesam]

JFYI to community - we (Anyscale) are actively working on enabling this.

[can-anyscale]

FYI, we're releasing the Ray wheel for Python 3.12 in phases:

• First Phase: The nightly wheel version is now available. You can find the download and installation instructions here. Consider this an alpha release—your feedback and bug reports during this phase will be greatly appreciated.

• Second Phase: The general availability (GA) release version of the wheel will be made available on PyPI. This is not yet available. This version will undergo rigorous testing to ensure all core and library features are fully functional. We'll provide more updates after further assessment.

Thanks!

[mstfbl]

Hi @can-anyscale @anyscalesam, any updates on this? The Ray project is very much being held back without Python 3.12 support.

[can-anyscale]

@mstfbl and everyone, thank you for your feedback. We hear you, and delivering on this is our top priority. However, we have many significant obstacles to address. We aim to keep the community updated more regularly on this matter.

• The experimental version of Python 3.12 is now available: Python 3.12 beta support #45904.
• My current work to integrate Python 3.12 into the entire Ray ecosystem can be found here: Can p12 01 #45726. This task is highly complex since Ray supports numerous ecosystems and dependencies, many of which do not yet support Python 3.12 (e.g., Horovod, Gymnasium, Sklearn, MosaicML, among others). We are making strategic decisions to allow the community to benefit from parts of Ray, rather than delaying an entire Ray release. Stay tuned for updates.

Please provide your feedback at #45904. We will maintain more regular communication on this topic there. Thank you.

[austinnichols101]

Python 3.13 released
https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3130

[Superskyyy]

Python 3.13 released python.org/downloads/release/python-3130

#47933 ref

[abitrolly]

Looks like this can be closed https://pypi.org/project/ray/#files

[msingh0101]

will this also work for python 3.13?

[cclauss]

• [Core] Experimental support for no-GIL build and JIT in Python 3.13  #47933
• [WIP] Initial port of Ray to Python 3.13 #47984

[ecederstrand]

will this also work for python 3.13?

No. PyPI only has wheels for Python 3.12. #47984 aims to add Python 3.13 support.