Makes the rolling pin craftable

[august-sun]

About the PR

Made the rolling pin craftable

Why / Balance

Given that it's a relatively simple object with specific uses and not super beneficial otherwise, it would be nice for chefs to create them easier!

Technical details

Edited relevant construction files and graphs.

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Breaking changes

Changelog

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• tweak: Rolling pins are now craftable.

[lzk228]

looks unneeded because you can use gas tanks as rolling pins
like, use rolling pin from chef in normal cooking and gas tanks in ghetto-cooking

[august-sun]

looks unneeded because you can use gas tanks as rolling pins like, use rolling pin from chef in normal cooking and gas tanks in ghetto-cooking

rolling pins specifically count as a tool and can be added to the chef's belt, which makes it stand out from alternatives!

[lzk228]

looks unneeded because you can use gas tanks as rolling pins like, use rolling pin from chef in normal cooking and gas tanks in ghetto-cooking

rolling pins specifically count as a tool and can be added to the chef's belt, which makes it stand out from alternatives!

sounds like it should be like that??
choose normal way - get better performance
choose ghetto way - get worse performance

[august-sun]

looks unneeded because you can use gas tanks as rolling pins like, use rolling pin from chef in normal cooking and gas tanks in ghetto-cooking

rolling pins specifically count as a tool and can be added to the chef's belt, which makes it stand out from alternatives!

sounds like it should be like that?? choose normal way - get better performance choose ghetto way - get worse performance

Right, I agree. The only reason this lives in "improvised" is because there's not quite another contained space for this to live, other than maybe creating a specific section for it.

I figured it would possibly be okay because A. It's a simple object comparable to a baseball bat, realistically speaking and B. It provides such a specific value (a rolling object that fits into a chef tool belt) that there's little to no avenue for abuse.

[lzk228]

i really cannot understand your point

[beck-thompson]

I don't see the issue with it being craftable though 🤷. It makes sense!

[august-sun]

i really cannot understand your point

The gas tank, as you're suggesting, can't fit into the chef's tool belt, only pockets. The rolling pin does. So you don't NEED to use a rolling pin for cooking, sure, but it's convenient for storage!

[lzk228]

to begin with, where did you get chef's belt from if you don't have access to chef vendor where the rolling pin is stored?

[Cojoke-dot]

I don't see the issue with it being craftable though 🤷. It makes sense!

Crafting menu bloat... there are so many things in the crafting menu that are never made because they are either pointless or hidden under 1000 other items. When was the last time you saw someone make a silver wall or... almost anything past the normal few items that people see as useful?

Why do we need to craft these? Do chefs have issues getting them? If they do why not just add more to the vend instead of forcing chefs to make one? Why not just talk to hop/chef for access/the item if your not a chef?

[august-sun]

I don't see the issue with it being craftable though 🤷. It makes sense!

Crafting menu bloat... there are so many things in the crafting menu that are never made because they are either pointless or hidden under 1000 other items.

Why do we need to craft these? Do chefs have issues getting them? If they do why not just add more to the vend instead of forcing chefs to make one? Why not just talk to hop/chef for access/the item if your not a chef?

Totally get this; at a minimum, it'd be okay at least to make it more available as a whole, so instead of in-hand craftable, it could be made at an autolathe (since it's not there, despite making sense to be there since a lot of dinnerware and other tools are). This also accounts for a few factors, namely:

• The vending machine may be depowered, rendering it inaccessible
• It may be out of stock, making it inconvenient/impossible to find another without specifically finding another relevant vending machine (I wasn't even able to find cooking related crates that included one).

I could see limiting a more complicated or desired item to "vending machine only", but for something as relatively innocuous, I didn't think it'd be a major issue.

[beck-thompson]

Crafting menu bloat... there are so many things in the crafting menu that are never made because they are either pointless or hidden under 1000 other items.

Honestly this sounds more like a crafting UI issue (And I do agree its an issue)!

[lzk228]

it'd be okay at least to make it more available as a whole

ehh... you can get it from dinnerware
if you CANNOT you should use GHETTO methods - GAS TANKS
like with other ghetto methods, you don't have access to something? use something more available, but it would work a little worse

it could be made at an autolathe

a lot better

The vending machine may be depowered, rendering it inaccessible

i may be a dick but sorry, should we put ointments and bruisepacks in craft menu because nanomed may be unpowered?

It may be out of stock

oh, ointments also may be out of stock!

[Cojoke-dot]

it'd be okay at least to make it more available as a whole

ehh... you can get it from dinnerware if you CANNOT you should use GHETTO methods - GAS TANKS like with other ghetto methods, you don't have access to something? use something more available, but it would work a little worse

it could be made at an autolathe

a lot better

The vending machine may be depowered, rendering it inaccessible

i may be a dick but sorry, should we put ointments and bruisepacks in craft menu because nanomed may be unpowered?

It may be out of stock

oh, ointments also may be out of stock!

guah, whoa, calm down

Honestly this sounds more like a crafting UI issue (And I do agree its an issue)!

True, maybe there should be dropdowns for categories like walls and stuff so you can look through stuff without seeing all the junk that nobody cares about.

I could see limiting a more complicated or desired item to "vending machine only", but for something as relatively innocuous, I didn't think it'd be a major issue.

lol, it's not a major issue, I just like consistency between stuff like this. You can't really craft any other dinnerwear equipment and it really is a super minor item. Sure cargo can be a pain but they do exist for a reason, not everything needs to be made by hand.

[august-sun]

it'd be okay at least to make it more available as a whole

ehh... you can get it from dinnerware if you CANNOT you should use GHETTO methods - GAS TANKS like with other ghetto methods, you don't have access to something? use something more available, but it would work a little worse

it could be made at an autolathe

a lot better

The vending machine may be depowered, rendering it inaccessible

i may be a dick but sorry, should we put ointments and bruisepacks in craft menu because nanomed may be unpowered?

It may be out of stock

oh, ointments also may be out of stock!

guah, whoa, calm down

I could see limiting a more complicated or desired item to "vending machine only", but for something as relatively innocuous, I didn't think it'd be a major issue.

lol, it's not a major issue, I just like consistency between stuff like this. You can't really craft any other dinner equipment and it really is a super minor item. Sure cargo can be a pain but they do exist for a reason, not everything needs to be made by hand.

Yeah that was both a major false equivalence between how important topical medicine is and... a rolling pin and, yeah, kind of rude!

Regarding this, then it might be better to have it moved over to being made at the lathe. Appreciate the feedback! I'll wait on maintainer feedback for a final say.

[Killerqu00]

Mechanics cannot be location specific or require items that cannot be obtained after roundstart.

there is also zero way to know that gas tank can be used as a rolling pin unless you look into the code

[Ertanic]

Maybe you should add as a crafting step a knife or something? It sounds logical that crafting a round rolling pin out of planks would use something sharp to shape it, than just... sticking the planks on a rod.

[slarticodefast]

Shouldn't be a problem to have this craftable. Maybe at some point we need to reorganize the crafting menu though.
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